06 April 2015

RE: April Energy Committee agenda

Hmmm…  I think that's me.  I'll crank it out tonight.

 

What's a wable?

 

Steve

 

From: Christopher Miller [mailto:cpmiller_m@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:35 PM
To: Bob Murphy (bmurphy@veic.org); Peter Duval; Peter Bennett; Steven Webster; Jerry Adams; Tom Moore; Chris Miller; Underhill Energy Committee Correspondence Log
Subject: April Energy Committee agenda

 

All,
I do not have minutes of last months Energy Committee yet.  Who is doing the proposed update to the Energy Committee mission statement?  I'd like to add that to the agenda

Right now I have: 
        

1) Rutland Select board recent anti-renewable siting resolution

2) wables siting in Town of Underhill

3) Solarize Update 

 

What else?

 

Thanks,

 

Chris

 



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05 April 2015

April Energy Committee agenda

All,
I do not have minutes of last months Energy Committee yet.  Who is doing the proposed update to the Energy Committee mission statement?  I'd like to add that to the agenda

Right now I have: 
        
1) Rutland Select board recent anti-renewable siting resolution
2) wables siting in Town of Underhill
3) Solarize Update 

What else?

Thanks,

Chris

16 December 2014

Meeting Minutes 20141210

Meeting Minutes 20141210

Town of Underhill
Energy Committee
10 December 2014


DRAFT MINUTES


CALL TO ORDER
Jerry Adams, Pete Bennett, Peter Duval, Tom Moore, Bob Murphy, Steve Webster, and Chris Miller in attendance, the regular meeting was called to order at 6:40pm in the Town Hall Kitchen, with Chris in the chair and Peter D. recording minutes as secretary.


Agenda
******
Due to the snow storm, Pete B. asked to move Town Infrastructure to the top of the agenda.

Public Comment
**************
None

Town Infrastructure
*******************

Pete B. said that the town staff is not using the town hall heat pumps because they are having trouble controlling heat pumps in tandem with the existing boiler. They feel that there is a problem with the design of the system. Bob discussed this with Sherri, too, and learned that Ramona turns on air conditioning to compensate for overheating in her office. Pete B. said that they are also concerned about freezing pipes, which they feel compels the use of the boiler. Bob feels that insulation should have fixed the pipe issue. Jerry said that he suggested moving the pipe in question at the time of the insulation project, but that the decision was made to leave it in place. Bob will spend some more time with Sherri to get sort out the problem and propose a solution.


Pete B. also asked about the post office, which has a new heat pump. He is concerned about the under-the-eave mounting of the heat pumps at the post office and town hall. Bob related his encounters with the post office staff and agreed that there is some more work to be done in setting up the systems and showing the staff how to use them.

Jerry described clamping an aquastat on a hydronic pipe that is at risk of freezing; as the temperature of the pipe drops, the boiler sends out some hot water, which keeps the system from freezing.


6:50

Solar Communities
*****************
Steve provided some more details from the Solarize Upper Valley program. There is a volume pricing RFP that provides greater discounts as the number of projects in the buying group increases. It is a 15 week process and there are standards system designs with adders for variables such as larger systems and longer interconnection runs.

Discussion turned to implementation in Underhill/Jericho, with concern noted about fairly and transparently choosing a single vendor for the project, and whether the town and even the Energy Committee should be involved at all. There was also a concern about keeping the number of committee members working on the project below quorum to avoid running afoul of the Open Meeting Law. Jerry suggested that Cliff Peterson would have good advice.



MOTION
Tom moved, and Jerry seconded, to ask the selectboard for feedback on idea. Passed unanimously.

Peter D. asked that a "carport" option included.

Town Garage
***********
Bob visited the site to see how the lighting project was progressing. The 255w T5 fixtures are being installed. There was a question about insulation disturbance, which has been resolved.

The heat recovery ventilator is also being installed. Jerry now thinks that it will not be adequate to remove the moisture from snow melt. Other towns clean their equipment with a firehose before garaging. Underhill only has a pressure cleaner. This practice difference may dominate the efforts of the ventilation system. Tom asked if there were alternatives for removing the snow and water. Jerry said the area around the garage is paved with gravel, which is tracked in by the trucks. The gravel falls off the trucks and makes it difficult to squeegee water off the floor.


PACE
****

Bob explained the renewed push for PACE financing, with new marketing materials being produced and the financing rate (1.99%) made more competitive. Pete B. said that High Meadows is interested in thermal efficiency via on-bill charges.

7:12 (Pete B. Leaves)

Peter D. noted a sweet, antifreeze odor in the building, which was confirmed by Tom and others — perhaps a leak in the boiler system.


Cold Climate Heat Pumps
***********************
Bob mentioned the $300 upstream incentive for heat pumps. There are no conditions for the incentive, so the customer should be attentive to pricing and be sure that the incentive is accounted for in any quotes from installers. There were 300 customers on a wait list for the incentive. The incentive program will extend through 2015.

Bob will have an iPhone controllable, single-head Mitsubishi 15kBtu system installed on Tuesday. He also has a DHW heat pump. Bob is in a trial for a heat pump clothes drier. Discussion about the relative incentives for the different heat pump devices.

Tom mentioned that he is working on a three-customer community solar system.

7:27

Community Energy and Climate Action Conference
**********************************************
Steve attended this year's meeting and focussed on community solar presentations. Peter asked about the keynote speaker, James Kunstler, who came to prominence in energy and planning with his book "The Geography of Nowhere." Underhill will become a "slum" in his analysis as central cities become increasingly desirable for their services. Steve said the speech was good, but as he accumulates all of his observations about the world, it's "really a downer."

Steve reported that the attendance was lower this year, but the presentations were helpful. 

7:30

Home Energy Audits
******************

Jerry would like to do some more home audits. He has an active contact. Bob has a list of previous contacts. Peter D. asked if there is a video of an actual home energy audit, which could be used for marketing. Bob said the Capstone has a Button Up video, which is at the library.

Steve said that the financing issue has been broadly resolved, os there's no reason not to get going on the audits. Chris said the we need to follow through on all of the audit requests to maintain credibility as an energy committee.

Other Items
***********
Bob requested help with improving the post office basement door. Discussion of a good design ensued. Tom recommended 5/8" CDX to sandwich the 3" foam.

Better Buildings By Design is 4-5 February. Energy Committee members can get a discounted admission.

Steve's 120kW net metering system is going ahead. Discussion about trends in energy. Bob mentioned that Sunpower is launching a new plant in Mexico.

Peter D. showed his Efficiency Vermont Home Energy Report, which "rivals the CCRPC in energy information obfuscation." Bob said that 100,000 randomly selected customers have received the reports. There have been many complaints received by customer service at Efficiency Vermont.

Minutes
*******
MOTION
Bob moved, and Jerry seconded, to accept the minutes of 12 November 2014 as submitted. Passed Unanimously.


ADJOURNMENT
***********
On a MOTION by Steve, seconded by Bob, the meeting was unanimously adjourned at 7:48.


Respectfully Submitted,

Peter Duval, Secretary



Approved ______________________________________ date:__________________


_______________________
Chris Miller, Chair

17 November 2014

Meeting Minutes 20141112

Meeting Minutes 20141112

Town of Underhill
Energy Committee
12 November 2014


DRAFT MINUTES


CALL TO ORDER
Jerry Adams, Pete Bennett, Peter Duval, Steve Webster, and Chris Miller in attendance, the regular meeting was called to order at 6:34pm in the Town Hall Kitchen, with Chris in the chair and Peter D. recording minutes as secretary.


Agenda
******
Steve W. asked to add Solar Community to the agenda.

6:40


Town Plan Draft Energy Chapter
******************************
Chris reviewed recent activity on the Energy Chapter. Melanie Needles explained the anomaly in the efficiency graph as the accounting of a light bulb incentive campaign. The CCRPC additions will be deleted.



6:45

Solar Communities
*****************
Three approaches to accelerating solar installations were discussed.

Steve described a Thetford organization that creates buying groups by issuing requests for proposals for bulk solar installations. They have been able to negotiate PV installations down to less than $3/W. Jerry noted that his system was $4.50/W.

Peter D. described the SunCommon community solar project at Evergreen Erb’s as a condominium.

Steve also described his 120kW hosting of a group net metering project, which is sized to meet the limit of 150kW per single-phase line. Jerry is also considering hosting a similar system.

Peter D. mentioned two considerations for these systems: land impact, and narrowing the specifications to minimize risk and control costs. Discussion ensued about different applications and configurations, including landfill, rooftop, ground-mount and parking cover.

Steve will investigate and develop this idea further.

7:02


Member Recruiting
*****************
Chris reviewed the membership history of the committee. Originally, the committee had 7 members. When Pete B. joined the membership increased to 8. The resignation of Chuck returns the membership count to 7.

Pete B. mentioned Brian Hurley as a potential member. Jerry mentioned Steve H.

After some discussion of the optimal size of the committee, Steve offered that 37 members would be too many.

7:07

Town Infrastructure
*******************
Pete B. related a conversation with town staff about the operation of the heat pump, which will take some tweaking to work effectively with the boiler. The installation under the eave without cover was a poor decision. The post office heat pump should also be protected.

Chris described the selectboard meeting with Bob. Pete B. volunteered to go again with Bob to discuss the advantages of consultation with the committee.

Peter D. asked if we should build a doghouse for the town hall front yard heat pump.

Discussion turned to heat pumps, generally. Steve asked if anyone had installed a residential unit. Pete B. said that Efficiency Vermont’s delays in announcing heat pump incentives had slowed the market.

7:20

Energy Options for Today
************************
Steve said that has saw mostly new faces at the event. Publicity had gone to all neighboring Front Porch Forums. Chris suggested that next time we should have a signup sheet. Jerry handed out a cost comparison table, updated with recent prices. Chris identified coefficient of performance as an issue that received a lot of questions from the audience. Pete B. said that Efficiency Maine’s website has very good information about heat pumps, also Vermont Fuel Price Report.

Peter D. said that he would like have hourly climate data for Underhill’s microclimates. Chris said that he has a weather station but does not log data.

7:38

Other Items
***********

Jerry would like to do some more home audits and asked if others would like to help, with a positive response from several members.

7:44


Minutes
*******
MOTION
Steve moved, and Pete B. seconded, to accept the minutes of 08 October 2014 as submitted. Passed Unanimously.


ADJOURNMENT
***********
On a MOTION by Pete B., seconded by Steve, the meeting was unanimously adjourned at 7:46.


Respectfully Submitted,

Peter Duval, Secretary



Approved ______________________________________ date:__________________


_______________________
Chris Miller, Chair




13 November 2014

Fwd: they're getting tough

From: Peter Bennett <ptbennett@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: they're getting tough
Date: November 13, 2014 at 8:58:09 AM GMT-5
To: Steve Webster <swebster@sbschools.net>, Jerry Adams <adamseng3@comcast.net>, "'Chris Miller'" <cpmiller_m@yahoo.com>, Tom Moore <router123@aol.com>, "'Peter Duval'" <pkduval@gmail.com>, "'Bob Murphy'" <bmurphy@veic.org>
Cc: bbigelow@underhillvt.gov

I guess we need to keep an eye on all this.

http://digital.vpr.net/post/braintree-considers-disconnecting-its-town-website


Peter

14 October 2014

Meeting Minutes 20141008

Meeting Minutes 20141008
Town of Underhill
Energy Committee
08 October 2014

DRAFT MINUTES

CALL TO ORDER
Jerry Adams, Pete Bennett, Peter Duval, Bob Murphy, Steve Webster, and Chris Miller in attendance, the regular meeting was called to order at 6:38pm in the Town Hall Kitchen, with Chris in the chair and Peter D. recording minutes as secretary.

Agenda
******
Steve W. asked to add Solar Community to the agenda. Peter D. asked to add Town Garage to the agenda.

6:42 
Steve Haenel, Underhill resident, arrived and set off a round of introductions.

Renewable Energy Vendor Presentation
************************************
Steve W. presented the tentative format for the event: 5 minute presentations followed by general questions and then time to visit vendors individually. Steve wrote an article for the Mountain Gazette and sent a draft to Chris, deadline for publication is tomorrow. Confirmed vendors include Suncommon, Real Goods and Solar Specialists. Many others have been invited.

6:46 
Tom Moore arrived.

Steve reserved the town hall for 28 October, 7pm-9pm. Chris volunteered to bring cider and cups. Pete B. asked about the contacted vendors. Steve read a list of solar thermal, solar PV and heat pump vendors. Pete B. suggested AllEarth. Tom suggested adding car vendors. Bob suggested Vermont Energy and Maheux. 

Advertising and promotion activities were discussed, including Mountain Gazette, Front Porch Forum, flyers, Clark's electronic billboard. 

A non-vendor informational presentation was discussed. Bob volunteered to give the presentation. Steve H. suggested that people will want to know about applicable law and incentives. Bob offered to bring a projector and screen, and recommended dsireusa.org.

7:05

Town Plan Draft Energy Chapter
******************************
The committee discussed the 3 October 2014 draft of the chapter as revised by Chittenden County Regional Planning Commission.

Many problems were identified in the charts and data, including: the data exhibited an inexplicable spike; the charts are uninformative, poorly designed and poorly referenced; there is no consideration of propane; wood is a major fuel but its associated CO2 emissions are not quantified; Underhill's CO2 emissions shown as equivalent to the emissions of the entire US in both a table and the main text. Chris felt that information would confuse or mislead people. Tom said that it is not ready. Steve W. observed that we have no confidence in the data Pete B. said that it raises more questions than answers.

7:20

Discussion turned to the main revision of the text, paragraph 8.2. Chris read the paragraph and noted that the reference to compact fluorescents was dated. Steve W. suggested changing references to electricity to energy.

Peter D. commented that all of the text, and much of our past effort, has been considered relative to the past rather looking forward to the goal, and that can lead to a failure to accomplish the goal, by local suboptimization. A gradient descent optimization, following the steepest path downhill, can lead one down the wrong side of a hill and too high an elevation. Tom rephrased it as baby steps don't work, every once in a while a giant step needs to be taken. Peter responded that at least a giant planning horizon is needed so that the entire terrain is understood and a path to the goal identified, which may even be uphill for awhile.

Peter D. said that the plan is completely tractable. The only reason that the town plans have then same chapters is that the planners and planning consultants looked at the statute and followed its pattern and that's why there is this "cookie cutter" language. There is nothing that requires town plans to follow this pattern. We could start from scratch using Underhill ideas and issues.

Jerry said that the current plan is bulky compared to former plans and the planning commission is trying to reduce it, so that deleting the CCRPC additions would be well received.

Chris said that the plan is not educational, is a document that gets buried, and that we need to be expedient to meet the deadline.

Peter D. said that the planning industry generally looks to copy from models. If we did put out a significantly different model, say that included a passivhaus energy standard, it wouldn't affect many houses in Underhill, but it could lead to bigger towns to follow suit.

Tom said that we have to deal with what we have in front of us.

Steve W. suggested that Peter write a new draft for later review in parallel with this draft.

MOTION
Jerry moved, and Tom seconded, to keep paragraph 8.2 (approximately line 25-34) with edits changing "compact fluorescent" to "energy-efficient", "electricity use" to "energy use" and delete all other new text, charts, tables and data. Passed unanimously.

7:35
Post Office
***********
Bob reported that the ceiling has been completely insulated, with the mini-split to be installed soon. Bob, Tom and Jerry removed a lot of rock wool and debris by hand. Jerry moved the plumbing vent so that it now exits the roof. Tom took care of patching the floor and roof where the big vent pipe was removed. 

The total bill from Building Energy was $7265, less the Efficiency Vermont incentive of about $1600, left a net project cost of $5708. The heat pump will be $3000. The garage high bay lights will cost $2215 with a $750 Efficiency Vermont incentive. All will fit within the budget of the VHEC grant.

The blower door test was a disappointing 1318 CFM50, compared to 1730 CFM50 before the project began -- about 25% reduction. Bob would like to get to a 35% reduction to get an additional $250 incentive from Efficiency Vermont. A smoke pencil test revealed major air flow at the windows, wainscoting, front door weatherstrip, Bilco door and furnace. Bob estimates that the air flow could be reduced another 400 CFM. He said that Mark Diego recommended sealing the basement door with a new frame and framed foam plug with Q-Lon gasket. Discussion of the ductwork versus the door ensued. Bob feels that an hour with some caulk guns would help with other leaks.

Discussion of whether to hire out the job of making the new basement door. Bob will ask Building Energy for a quote on the project, and order the high bay lights for the garage. 

MOTION
Pete B. moved and Steve W. seconded to recognize the very good work done by Jerry, Bob and Tom on the Post Office project. Passed unanimously.

Peter D. asked if, when it fails, the furnace would be replaced with another furnace, or something else and whether removing the furnace now, then air sealing, would help avoid the problem of localized suboptimization.  Bob said that there is no likelihood that a new furnace would be installed. 

Chris asked about the control for the two heating systems. Bob said the project is an experiment. Jerry said that he has used identical thermostats, located side-by-side, with significant offset between the controls. Peter D. suggested using some real-time data loggers to monitor the building. Bob said that he hoping to get some help on this from VEIC.

7:55

Member Recruiting
*****************
Chris read an ad for Front Porch Forum. Tom suggested recruiting at the vendor night. The process for recruiting and appointing was discussed and several questions emerged. Chris will discuss this with the selectboard and town administrator.


8:05

Steve suggested putting time limits on the agenda items. Agenda items, Solar Community and Energy Assessments were tabled without objection.

Town Garage
***********
The status of the town garage was briefly discussed and Bob expressed concern about the town's energy-related decisions being made without consultation.

Peter D. asked if, since the garage was still in limbo, perhaps the VHEC grant money could be used on the post office to achieve a much tighter post office.

Bob said that the lights really need to be fixed, and they can be reused if have to be taken down for the roof repair.

MOTION
Steve W. moved, and Pete B. seconded, to send Chris and Bob to a selectboard meeting to discuss the need for consultation. Passed unanimously.

Chris observed that the selectboard's resolve to repair the roof is fading because it is so expensive, and yet at the same time the building is so young, it is too early to replace.

Minutes
*******
MOTION
Bob moved, and Tom seconded, to accept the minutes of 10 September 2014 as submitted. Passed Unanimously.

ADJOURNMENT
***********
On a MOTION by Jerry, seconded by Bob, the meeting was unanimously adjourned at 8:12.

Respectfully Submitted,

Peter Duval, Secretary


Approved ______________________________________ date:__________________


_______________________
Chris Miller, Chair




08 October 2014

Fwd: Energy Chapter of the Town Plan

Begin forwarded message:

From: Christopher Miller
Subject: Fw: Energy Chapter of the Town Plan
Date: October 6, 2014 at 1:08:46 PM GMT-4
To: Bob Murphy , Gerard Adams , Tom Moore , Steve Webster , Peter Bennett , Peter Duval
Reply-To: Christopher Miller

All,
Please find the attached revised Energy Chapter.  Sarah is requesting the Energy Committee to review and comment.


Regards,
Chris

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Sarah McShane
To: Christopher Miller  
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 9:17 AM

Subject: Energy Chapter of the Town Plan

Good Morning Chris,

Happy Friday to you.  I hope this finds you well.  The Chittenden County Regional Planning Commission supplied an energy analysis of the town for inclusion in the Energy Chapter of the Town Plan.  Would you mind sharing the attached revised Energy Chapter with the Energy Committee for review and comment?  Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Once we receive comments from the Energy Committee, the Planning Commission will put the chapter online for public review and comment.

Thanks so much.  Enjoy your weekend.

-Sarah